Huge thanks to Dave Rael for having me on the Developer on Fire Podcast! I am honored to have been able to talk with Dave on his show. The Developer on Fire Podcast is really unique because it focuses on the people more than on the technology. There is some tech talk of course but he really tries to get at the stories, the personality, what makes you tick, who you are, what motivates you and how you engage with your work. The show has been around for a long time and he has had some real luminaries among his guests including many of my personal tech heroes. I highly recommend adding this podcast to your listening routine if you haven't already.

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